tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post2864783092130739520..comments2023-11-02T05:07:44.211-07:00Comments on Books, Boys, Buzz...: Writers Keeping SecretsYoung Adult Authorshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12093024348425287064noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-51195529263878478332010-05-08T03:25:27.277-07:002010-05-08T03:25:27.277-07:00I have to agree about Catching Fire. That book jus...I have to agree about Catching Fire. That book just kept my pulse racing throughout..and the big reveal literally killed me! Can't wait for Mockingjay..<br /><br />Also, I think all of Sidney Sheldon's book have some earth-shattering secrets. Windmills Of The Gods caught me clueless with the big reveal about who Angel really was!Bidishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17382938442171208326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-74837922892057823552010-05-07T03:28:52.480-07:002010-05-07T03:28:52.480-07:00I know this is the opposite, but I find that in &#...I know this is the opposite, but I find that in 'Evernight' the author does preceisely the thing you say not to: for the entire book the main character knows she's a vampire, but we only find out half way! All sorts of strange things were happening during the first half of the book and we had no idea what was going on, but obviously the main character knew. I found that very poor writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-90104995762121972322010-05-06T05:49:18.772-07:002010-05-06T05:49:18.772-07:00Catching Fire is a great example! Other books I t...Catching Fire is a great example! Other books I think of are City of Bones, My Soul To Take & Glass HousesSarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07655345113702376708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-77789901329215933112010-05-06T01:13:10.599-07:002010-05-06T01:13:10.599-07:00City of Glass is a novel with lots of secrets. Cas...City of Glass is a novel with lots of secrets. Cassandra Clare kept secrets from her characters and filled the story with twists and turns with a revelation that I never expected.Precioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16010073497121681701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-58046714769315744912010-05-05T23:23:49.218-07:002010-05-05T23:23:49.218-07:00I'm glad to hear that Nymfaux! Like I thought...I'm glad to hear that Nymfaux! Like I thought Shiver by Maggie Stiefvater was a pretty good stand alone by itself and it just so happened that it got turned into a series. Books should be like that on the principal of it and not sacrifice their integrity for commercial reasons!!<br /><br />Hee hee hee ... sorry for hijacking this thread for our soapbox rant :DLlehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03808225636111637085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-63116793072565615832010-05-05T03:12:51.550-07:002010-05-05T03:12:51.550-07:00I really like the point you make here. As a reade...I really like the point you make here. As a reader I do like to know more than the characters (or at least think I do) but at the same time it is sometimes nice to be surprised ( as long as it is logical). I think I would be annoyed if the character knew they were a mermaid and they didn't tell us, but I would be pleasantly amused if another character knew that they were a mermaid and hadn't told the readers. <br />Thanks for an interesting post.<br />I have to say I like Faye Kellermen as a writer because she keeps the reader in the dark, but usually because the characters are in the dark at the same time. The reader can usually figure out how something has happened about a line before the characters come to the same conclusion so it is an interesting battle to see if you can beat the character to the punch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-73410885278411519152010-05-04T23:44:10.420-07:002010-05-04T23:44:10.420-07:00Llehn totally agree with you! I'm very excite...Llehn totally agree with you! I'm very excited when a good author gets a series, because otherwise I run out of books very quickly! :)<br /><br />But books need to be able to stand on their own, too--especially the first one!nymfauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01573887455015014792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-23840107385572664382010-05-04T22:40:18.516-07:002010-05-04T22:40:18.516-07:00i loved the outlander seriesi loved the outlander seriespetranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-25013641369750021062010-05-04T20:45:26.583-07:002010-05-04T20:45:26.583-07:00I know exactly what you mean, Nymfaux about Fallen...I know exactly what you mean, Nymfaux about Fallen. I seem to be reading more and more books these days that are clearly set ups for a series more for marketing reasons than anything else and it frustrates me. Every book needs closure with some kind of independent story arc, not just dumping a whole bunch of information about character and premise and going nowhere, paving the way for a sequel. I, for one, am boycotting the subsequent books.<br /><br />I think the most reason book where the author kept a secret from the reader and when it is revealed, it changes the dynamics of the book is Liar by Justine Labalestier.Llehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03808225636111637085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-52581962446444861562010-05-04T15:50:46.811-07:002010-05-04T15:50:46.811-07:00thanks!--And you're right about the horcruxes-...thanks!--And you're right about the horcruxes--that's the part that redeems Regilus Black, if people haven't read the books, they have no clue!nymfauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01573887455015014792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-43965030780729838722010-05-04T15:45:12.366-07:002010-05-04T15:45:12.366-07:00nymfaux-
I wholeheartedly agree!! In the 6th m...nymfaux- <br />I wholeheartedly agree!! In the 6th movie, they in;y mentiones 2 of the 6 Horcruxes mentioned in the book. Movie 7 will be REALLY confusing to non-readers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-27181601521266957322010-05-04T14:45:52.797-07:002010-05-04T14:45:52.797-07:00And as long as we're talking about the subject...And as long as we're talking about the subject, it really bothered me that the Harry Potter movies never revealed the origin of the Marauder's Map--It's really important to how Harry develops and views his connections with some of the other characters in the book, also tying some of the other characters together in an important way. And though I totally recommend reading the books, the movies should be able to stand independently, and in this case, I really feel that the moviegoers are really missing something important.nymfauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01573887455015014792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-90115454967690117882010-05-04T14:40:46.984-07:002010-05-04T14:40:46.984-07:00I just finished reading "Fallen," and wa...I just finished reading "Fallen," and was really disappointed that the author kept HUGE chunks of both the character's mythology and religious mythology--I didn't mind going along for the ride, but by the end of the book, we still didn't know a majority of everything that led up to the events in the beginning of the book. I felt empty at the end, dreading a second book now, instead of anticipating one--A teaser is fine, but give me SOMETHING... it's so frustrating!<br /><br />Speaking of teasers...TLC keeps teasing us with Nicole's godly lineage. It's an example of a good secret, because people want to know, which means she did a good job creating interesting characters...And, at least so far, it hasn't been something integral to advancing the plot.nymfauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01573887455015014792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-4169040305136294762010-05-04T13:45:35.590-07:002010-05-04T13:45:35.590-07:00The Mortal Instruments series has a couple of secr...The Mortal Instruments series has a couple of secrets that are kept from both the characters and the readers. Very good series that keeps you wondering too.donnashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15468804026216474775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-25761163501397888542010-05-04T13:17:06.749-07:002010-05-04T13:17:06.749-07:00The best example of a story where the writer his s...The best example of a story where the writer his secrets from his characters according to me is Twelfth Night by Shakespeare. He never for once let the other characters know that Cesario was actually Viola who was disguised as a pageboy for Orsino. And in the process Olivia falls in love with Cesario,Viola falls for Orsino...and its a total comedy of errors!! Brilliant masterpiece from the best story-teller of all ages!bookaholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13443052150200806183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-68509875043938007412010-05-04T11:38:11.836-07:002010-05-04T11:38:11.836-07:00James Patterson's The Honeymoon is a good exam...James Patterson's The Honeymoon is a good example of a secret being kept from the characters.. <br />The main character is a black widow and the men that she catches in her web (poor guys) have no idea what hit them until after it's too late.. <br />The same goes for another potential victim.. until he gets wise and then.. well I guess you'll have to read it to find out!!!AllisonPaige25https://www.blogger.com/profile/11765049688110182587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-24578050699108989492010-05-04T10:26:50.459-07:002010-05-04T10:26:50.459-07:00Ooh, Liviania, good example! I totally agree abou...Ooh, Liviania, good example! I totally agree about The Thief. Secrets are kept from the reader, but it's not bad, it's good -- wonderful, in fact! (A great example of why no writing rule is unbreakable.)<br /><br />And Turner does the same in her next three Attolia books -- wonderful surprises in all of them. (And I strongly recommend avoiding spoilers to keep her surprises surprising!)<br /><br />As to secrets kept from the character...I think that's less common in YA now that so many books are either first person or a very close 3rd person...but I suppose a clever author can do it by dropping in clues that the character ignores (or doesn't understand) but the reader can figure out. (For example, in Diana Wynne Jones's fabulous "Howl's Moving Castle," one character is from our world...and so the random bits of info that mean nothing to the heroine clue us in...)<br /><br />CaraCara Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930608028959652445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-29148409310255163172010-05-04T09:55:41.370-07:002010-05-04T09:55:41.370-07:00I think Megan Whalen Turner, in The Thief, does a ...I think Megan Whalen Turner, in The Thief, does a fabulous job of keeping a secret from the reader and not making it awful. When it's revealed, everything that came before in the book changes, but still works. It's incredible.Livianiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479932701589363306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33681077.post-90425923743908993412010-05-04T08:40:02.026-07:002010-05-04T08:40:02.026-07:00In the Outlander series Diana Gabeldon does a grea...In the Outlander series Diana Gabeldon does a great job at keeping secrets. It is kind of hard to explain the circumstances because the books are long and complicated. For one thing it takes us a long while, like five or six books, to realize that Claire's 20th century husband, Frank, really believes she went back in time to the 18th century and got married to another man named Jaimie and got pregnant; this bit of knowledge and what he does with it makes him a little less of an ass.<br />One secret I'm waiting for DG to reveal is if the ghost that Frank saw staring at Claire in the first book was Jaimie or not.sunnynikkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341529877046635063noreply@blogger.com